Publishers are accustomed to hearing bad news about trust in journalism. But Gallup’s latest findings offer a glimmer of improvement: 33% of Americans now express confidence in the news media, up from a record-low 28% last year. Still, two-thirds have little or no confidence in the news. What if some of that distrust could be overcome simply by introducing skeptical news audiences to high-quality, trustworthy journalism?
New research suggests that news podcasts may offer one way to do just that. A new study, Does Listening to Trustworthy News Affect Political Attitudes and Trust? found that listening to NPR’s “Up First” podcast for five days not only increased participants’ knowledge about news events, it changed the way they think about news from podcasts: “Trust specifically in news from podcasts …increased (d = 0.09), but not in mainstream news more generally.”
Andrew M. Guess, Associate Professor of Politics and Public Affairs at Princeton University—and one of the study’s researchers—says it was predictable that listening to news would increase accuracy of participants’ knowledge about news events, but the downstream effects were less predictable. In retrospect, Guess says that “crystallized attitudes” about mainstream news media and politics explain why they did not see spillover effects for other mainstream media—but that does not mean there aren’t lessons to be learned for news organizations.
The “Up First” effect
For those who may not be familiar, “Up First” is a daily podcast that moves quickly through the day’s biggest stories, with a revolving set of familiar hosts—Leila Fadel, Steve Inskeep, Michel Martin, A Martinez, Ayesha Rascoe and Scott Simon—engaging directly with the journalists who reported the story. In many ways, it’s a lot like the old school, “just the facts ma’am” news that so many say they long for. “Up First” isn’t the podcast for policy wonks who want to dive deep into the issues of the day, it’s a place for people to learn what they need to know to stay reasonably informed. For these reasons and more, the researchers chose it to be the podcast for their study.
Interestingly, Guess says the study had stronger effects among people who regularly listened to “manoshphere,” hang-out style podcasts like “The Joe Rogan Experience.”
“It’s hard for us to pinpoint any particular mechanism,” says Guess. “It’s worth pointing to the format. Three stories told in an authoritative way, often with a reporter who is on the scene who speaks with authority and confidence about the issues. The journalistic value comes through very clearly.”
He notes that NPR produces its news programming to studiously emphasize balance and fairness. “Even if you’re inclined to be skeptical—if NPR connotes liberal bias to you—if you’re listening for the first time, you might actually be pleasantly surprised,” he says. The real people behind the reporting come through, and Guess also notes the personality-driven nature of podcasts “makes it difficult to fall back on partisan stereotypes.”
Given that spillover effects to “mainstream news” are virtually non-existent, Guess says more research into exactly how much exposure would have an effect is worth exploring.
Trust building exercises for news
It would be easy to over-interpret this news. However, Guess hopes publishers will see that they should not write-off skeptical audiences and maybe even invest in their own research to take these findings to the next level. Publishers could start by experimenting with ways to introduce their journalism to skeptical audiences through podcasts and other formats those audiences already enjoy. Promoting existing news podcasts on popular conversational shows could be one approach. These experiments could help publishers understand whether greater familiarity with their news reporting can build trust and, over time, stronger audience relationships.
For organizations worried audiences might build trust with a person rather than the larger brand, Guess says, “I have no strong reason to believe the effects we were finding were driven by a single strong personality,” he notes. “What matters is what people think is the source.” That could be a person, the outlet, or even the show. “Up First’s” rotating cast of hosts and journalists may help prevent audiences from over-identifying with any one person.
“News consumption is habitual,” Guess says. His research offers an encouraging possibility: distrust of news may be deeply rooted, but it isn’t necessarily permanent. Figuring out how to create a habit among audiences who publishers may have given up on could be the key to finding, and keeping, new audiences.

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